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标题: 从一段注解开始谈。。。。(水星唱片) [打印本页]

作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-20 23:18
标题: 从一段注解开始谈。。。。(水星唱片)
晚上随手挑了一张水星公司的黑胶,内容是PEPE ROMERO的FLAMENCO!,这张应该属于相当经典的录音,注意到唱片封套背面的一段注解,非常有兴趣,贴上来给大家看看
FLAMENCO!
Played by the spanish guitarist
PEPE ROMERO

Notes about this recording

The sessions which produced this album took place in Fine Rrcording Company's Studio A, which was at one time a small ballroom with a tiny stage at one end. Here Mr. Romero sat, facing the microphones (three for the stereo version, one for the monaural) which had been hung so as to preserve the proper intimate atmosphere. Once the controls were adjusted to the delicate sound of the guitars. Mr. Romero bent his head to his instrument and began to improvise the music recorded on this disc. No controls were changed, no microphones moved for any special effects. This is exactly the way the artist sounded.
Harold Lawrence was the musical director for the session, and Clair Van Ausdall was his associate. The basic set-up was supervised by Wilma Cozart and C. R. Fine. The chief engineer was William Blachly. George Piros made the tape-to-disc transfer for the stereo version, John Johnson for the monaural.

在文字里面提到了水星录音的2个经典标准,其一是3个麦克风摆位(立体声录音),其二是在整个录音过程中,绝对不会调整设备的设定(主要应该是电平)和麦克风的摆位。联想到手上的一些水星唱片在大动态的时候有电平被吹破的现象,估计这个也应该是水星坚持的录音标准吧。

开此贴,基于自己的2个原因,一是手上有一百多张水星的CD和几十张水星的黑胶,另一个就是自己系统的扬声器ALTEC原本就是水星公司录音时的御用扬声器(常用的好像是603)。

希望各位烧友前辈能畅所欲言,谈谈自己对水星公司录音和唱片的见解。
作者: alma    时间: 2010-6-21 03:59
向能很好播放水星唱片(指CD)的系统致敬。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-6-21 05:56
我的水星唱片不多,但确实和播放器材有很大关系。
尤其对CD机要求比较高。
如果用抵挡系统播放,会觉得声音粗粝,很难听。
但在好一点的音响系统,效果会非常好。
我自己不能解释这种现象。
作者: rock    时间: 2010-6-21 09:34
水星的唱片最大特点是质感强烈,录音风格偏近场,但不算难播...
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-21 09:49
记得应该是在5年前,买了第一张水星的发烧碟,老柴的1812,就开始一发不可收拾,目前有水星的CD约130张(套),应该基本已经收齐了。去年又开始收集水星的黑胶,不过目前只有30多张。
纵观水星的CD,基本保持了黑胶原有的风格,这个可要归功于Wilma Cozart Fine(就是 C. R. Fine的太太)。在九十年代初公司准备将水星的优秀录音数字化(CD化)的时候,请出了这位老太太重新对母带进行模数转换的工作,老太太的2个关键决定造就了水星CD的高标准和HiFI性,其一就是恢复原有的3轨开盘母带机,其二就是完全保留水星录音的所有指标(包括背景底噪),从而原汁原味地维持了水星录音的动态、密度、音场,甚至和其他录音公司相比略显偏少的空间感(反过来造就了水星录音特有的扎实度)。
作者: rock    时间: 2010-6-21 10:00
水星唱片的动态和密度确实非常好,我也是从1812开始接触水星唱片的,现在仍然喜欢听听1812序曲..当然最喜欢的水星唱片是Starker的<大无>了,即使是再版LP也比CD 的音质好很多..
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-21 10:17
水星唱片对系统的动态确实是一个考验,记得5年前用的雨后超5的箱子,在水星录音的强烈攻势下,基本成了软脚蟹。
而自从用了ALTEC A7后,可以说是如鱼得水,至于后来通过学习了解到当初水星现场录音的监听箱就是ALTEC 603单元。
作者: 舒存    时间: 2010-6-21 10:23
以前在立体声谈过这个方面的话题,感兴趣可以看看。原帖可能丢掉了很多图片,有的说法不明确了。另外,其中一些转帖内容,并非都是同意的,有的是提醒大家注意这个方面,可能很复杂,或有争议。


声音取向,也就是发烧友常常说器材之类的“声底”这些东西,其实与自己最经常听到的、最喜欢听到的那个类型的唱片是密切相关的。从软件的角度说,就是听音取向。从录音的角度看,就是“表现”与“再现”的分歧。举个具体例子说,同样是现场的录音,追求的是“实况录音”,还是“录制实况”,体现了录音师不同的音响美学观,不同的理念会导致选择不同的录音方法。

所以,录音好与不好,外在的是音效的一面,内在是是音效的另一面,他们都只能从音效中体现出来。只不过当你的理念不同,可能不欣赏或视听没感觉另一面的不同,或者把一种很好的另一面音效视作低劣等级的东西。


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作者: 舒存    时间: 2010-6-21 10:27
从我个人的欣赏角度来看,水星的古典音乐唱片,作为欣赏水星独特的录音风格很有意义,但对作为古典音乐欣赏,没有太大的意义。欣赏古典音乐,第一位是乐团的素质。
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-21 10:43
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(1) The Mercury legend actually involved the legendary Mercury triumvirate C. Robert Fine (left), Wilma Cozart and Harold Lawrence. Wilma was conductor Antal Doratis secretary before joining Mercury and later became Mrs. Fine. She and Harold Lawrence were recording directors. Wilma extended the Mercury legend into the digital era and masterminded the CD and SACD reissues. In the other pictures,Wilma is seen working at the 3-to-2 channel console for LP productions
(2) and posing at the Western Electric mixing console for the CD release
(3) Audiophiles can easily identify with the Audio Suite by Mark Levinson in the background, which was used as monitoring preamplifier
(4) and the Mercury monitoring loudspeakers, Altec's Voice of the Theater
(5)With Dorati conducting one of the Mercury sessions, seen over his head is the Telefunken U-47 omni-directional microphone.
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-21 12:00
从我个人的欣赏角度来看,水星的古典音乐唱片,作为欣赏水星独特的录音风格很有意义,但对作为古典音乐欣赏,没有太大的意义。欣赏古典音乐,第一位是乐团的素质。
舒存 发表于 2010-6-21 10:27


同意舒存前辈的部分观点,哈哈。
不过在水星录音当中还是有相当高水平的演绎,诸如谢林、斯塔克和罗梅罗家族。。。。
作者: Roseknight_gao    时间: 2010-6-21 13:33
水星的唱片还是相当乐观的,听着蛮开心的。
作者: zlot    时间: 2010-6-22 00:00
一直垂涎水星的那几张西盖第的小提琴黑胶
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-22 10:41
一直垂涎水星的那几张西盖第的小提琴黑胶
zlot 发表于 2010-6-22 00:00

西盖蒂我有一盘原版开盘带,贝小协。。。[attach]9988[/attach]
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-6-23 07:42
W兄若有空,期待继续。
作者: brahms    时间: 2010-6-23 09:20
西盖蒂我有一盘原版开盘带,贝小协。。。9988
wayned 发表于 2010-6-22 10:41

好唱片,菲利普出过CD。
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-23 09:43
我对水星唱片的相对热衷,主要是对该公司的录音技术和过程非常有兴趣,对于美国的几家著名的唱片公司,包括RCA、哥伦比亚、水星等,他们的录音技术都有自己独特的一面,当然欧洲的唱片公司也有同样的特点。
可能是因为自己的系统中,扬声器是典型的美国风格,才会感到这些老美的唱片公司的录音在自己系统上的表现非常让自己着迷。
水星的录音也不是没有缺点,谢林的克莱斯勒小品的那张,音色是无懈可击,但是我曾经在很多系统上听过,乐器的定位感缺不是很好,不知道是不是当时的录音也是用了3点麦克风摆位造成以上的情况。
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-23 09:44
本帖最后由 wayned 于 2010-6-23 09:59 编辑
W兄若有空,期待继续。
shinelb 发表于 2010-6-23 07:42

版主兄,小弟会把自己的一些感受写上来,不一定正确和有说服力,坛子里面前辈和高手如云,小弟只是抱着学习和交流的心态,哈哈。
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-23 09:46
Mercury的hifi性好于音乐味道.
八先生 发表于 2010-6-22 23:22

八爷说的很有道理,其实美国唱片公司的录音,都可以说在Hifi性上面强调很多,这也是为什么像RCA、水星公司的录音成为现在很多烧友追捧的发烧片的原因。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-6-23 11:20
版主兄,小弟会把自己的一些感受写上来,不一定正确和有说服力,坛子里面前辈和高手如云,小弟只是抱着学习和交流的心态,哈哈。
wayned 发表于 2010-6-23 09:44

W兄不用客气。说起来我也有水星情结呢。因为我买的第一套黑胶就是水星的斯塔克大无复刻版。复刻版黑胶味很重,但解析力不太理想。后来换成荷兰版,声音要好很多。但头版就无能为力了,今天接近万元了。水星黑胶唱片很多都有荷兰版,估计是菲利普收购水星后出的。荷兰版一般非常便宜。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-6-23 11:21
好唱片,菲利普出过CD。
brahms 发表于 2010-6-23 09:20
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作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-23 11:46
这个是水星唱片的一些目录。。。
Mercury Living Presence
Mercury Living Presence, America’s first audiophile label, features more than 100 titles from the Mercury vaults, meticulously remastered by the original producer, Wilma Cozart Fine. MLP recordings are milestones in the history of American music, featuring compositions and performances by such important American performers and composers as Aaron Copland, Frederick Fennell, Howard Hanson and more.

Adam: Giselle / J. Strauss Jr.: Graduation Ball / Offenbach: Ga&icirc;té Parisienne
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1996

Antal Doráti Conducts Richard Strauss
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1994

Bach: 6 Suites / Sonatas
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Balalaika Favorites
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1990

Ballet for Band
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

Barber / Piston / Griffes / McCauley / Kennan / Bergsma
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 2000

Baroque Masterpieces for the Harpsichord
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1999

Bartók: Bluebeard's Castle
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

Bartók: Miraculous Mandarin / Sonata for Two Pianos and Percussion / Divertimento
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1995

Bartók: Violin Concerto No. 2 / Second Suite
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1995

Bartók: Wooden Prince
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1995

Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5 & 6
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1997

Beethoven: Symphony No. 7 / Overtures
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1999

Bloch: Concerto Grosso Nos. 1 & 2 / Schelomo
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Brahms / Mendelssohn: Cello Sonatas
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1996

Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2 / Liszt: Hungarian Rhapsody No.12
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1994

British & American Band Classics
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1990

Chopin: Sonata in G Minor / Bartók: First Rhapsody / Mendelssohn: Variations
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1995

The Civil War
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1990

Copland: Appalachian Spring / Billy the Kid
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Delibes: Sylvia / Coppélia
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

Doráti Conducts Albéniz / de Falla / Mussorgsky / Smetana
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1997

Doráti Conducts Brahms & Enesco
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1993

Doráti Conducts Satie / Milhaud / Auric / Fran&ccedil;aix / Fetler
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1994

Dvorák: Cello Concerto / Bruch: Kol Nidrei
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1990

Dvorák: Symphony No. 9 / Mozart: Symphony No. 38
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1997

Dvorák: Symphony No. 9 / Sibelius: Symphony No. 2
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

Enesco: Roumanian Rhapsody No. 1 / Liszt: Hungarian Rhapsodies Nos. 1-6
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Fabulous Marches for Orchestra
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1998

Fennell Conducts Grainger / Persichetti / Khatchaturian
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Flamenco!
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1995

Frederick Fennell Conducts Porter & Gershwin
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1993

French Opera Highlights
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Gershwin: American in Paris / Copland: Rodeo / Bloch: Sinfonia Breve
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1993

Gould: West Point Symphony / Giannini: Symphony No. 3 / Hovhaness: Symphony No. 4
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

Grofé: Grand Canyon Suite / Herbert: Cello Concerto No. 2
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1995

Guitar Concertos
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1996

Handel: Water Music / Mozart: Eine Kleine Nachtmusik
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1998

Hands Across the Sea - Marches from Around the World
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1994

Hanson Conducts Fiesta in Hi-Fi
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

Hanson Conducts Ives / Schuman / Mennin
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Hanson Conducts Moore / Carpenter / Rogers / Phillips
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

Hanson: Symphony No. 3 / Elegy / Lament for Beowulf
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Hanson: Symphony Nos. 1 & 2 / Song of Democracy
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1990

Holst: Suites Nos. 1 & 2 / Vaughan Williams: Folk Song Suite / Toccata Marziale
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1999

Janos Starker Plays Italian Cello Sonatas
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1994

Khachaturian: Gayaneh / Shostakovich: Symphony No. 5
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

Marches & Overtures a la Fran&ccedil;aise
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1993

Mendelssohn: Midsummer Night's Dream / Symphony No. 5
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1998

Mendelssohn: Symphonies Nos. 3 & 4
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1995

Mozart: Serenade No. 10 / R. Strauss: Serenade / Milhaud: Suite Fran&ccedil;aise
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1998

Music for Quiet Listening Vol. 1
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1994

Music for Quiet Listening Vol. 2
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1997

Music of Chabrier / Roussel
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Music of Chadwick / MacDowell / Peter
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1994

Music of Grainger / Coates
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1993

Music of Ibert / Ravel
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1990

Music of Kodály / Bartók
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1990

Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1994

Orchestral Works of Schoenberg / Webern / Berg
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1990

Organ Recital
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

Paray Conducts Bizet & Thomas
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

Paul Paray Conducts Dances of Death
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1994

Prokofiev: Piano Concerto No. 3 / Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto No.1
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1994

Prokofiev: Romeo & Juliet / Mussorgsky: A Night on Bald Mountain
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1990

Puyana Plays Bach
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1998

Rachmaninov: Piano Concertos Nos. 2 & 3
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Ravel: Gaspard de la Nuit / Stravinsky: 3 Movements from Petrouchka
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 2000

Respighi: Ancients Dances & Airs for Lute
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherazade / Sibelius: Valse Triste / Liszt: Les Préludes
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1998

The Royal Family of the Spanish Guitar
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1997

Saint-Sa&euml;ns: Organ Symphony
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Schumann / Mendelssohn: Violin Concertos
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 2000

Schumann: Symphonies Nos. 1-4
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1999

Screamers (Circus Marches) / March Time
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Smetana: Má Vlast
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1996

Sousa: 24 Favorite Marches
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

The Spirit of '76 / Ruffles & Flourishes
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1997

Stravinsky: Firebird / Fireworks / Tango / Scherzo à la Russe
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Suppé / Auber: Overtures
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1992

Szeryng Plays Kreisler & Other Treasures for the Violin
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 2000

Tchaikovsky: 1812 Overture / Beethoven: Wellington's Victory
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1995

Tchaikovsky: Nutcracker / Serenade for Strings
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1991

Tchaikovsky: Swan Lake (Complete Ballet)
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1998

Tchaikovsky: Symphonies Nos. 1-3
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1997

Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4 / Francesca da Rimini
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 1996

Wagner: Preludes & Overtures
CD - Mercury Living Presence - 2000
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-23 11:47
这个是水星黑胶唱片的目录。。。。

Mercury LP List
SR 90001 Bizet Carmen Suite, La Arlesienne / Paray DSO @
SR 90002 Gershwin Concerto, Rhapsody in Blue / List, pf Hanson ERS
SR 90003 Bartok Violin Concerto / Menuhin, vln Dorati MSO
SR 90005 Ravel Bolero, Ma Mere L'Oye Chabrier Bourrees / Paray DSO
SR 90006 Prokofiev Love of 3 Oranges, Scythian Suite / Dorati LSO @
SR 90007 Albeniz Iberia Falla Interlude, La Vide Breve / Dorati MSO
SR 90008 Strauss, J. Music of Johann Strauss / Dorati MSO
SR 90009 Anderson Music of Leroy Anderson, Vol. 1 / Fennell ERpop
SR 90010 Debussy La Mer, Iberia / Paray DSO @
SR 90011 Beethoven Symphony #3 "Eroica" / Dorati MSO
SR 90012 Saint Saens Symphony #3 "Organ" / Paray DSO @
SR 90016 Offenbach Gaite Parisienne Strauss Grand Ball / Dorati MSO
SR 90017 Chausson Symphony in Bb / Paray DSO
SR 90018 Chadwick Symphonic Sketches / Hanson ERS
SR 90019 Rachmoninov Symphony #2 / Paray DSO
SR 90043 Anderson Music of Leroy Anderson Vol. 2 / Fennell ERpop @
SR 90049 Grofe Grand Canyon & Mississippi Suites / Hanson ERO
SR 90053 Music for Quiet Listening / Hanson ERS
SR 90054 Tchaikovsky 1812 Overtures, Capriccio Italian / Dorati MSO
SR 90060 Shostakovich Symphony #5 / Skrowacziewski MSO *
SR 90098 Bartok 2nd Suite / Dorati MSO
SR 90099 Strauss, R. Suite from Der Rosenkavalier; Til Eulenspiegel's Merry Pranks / Dorati MSO
SR 90102 Schumann Symphony #2 / Paray DSO
SR 90103 Sessions Black Maskers Suite; McPhee Tabuh Tabuhan / Hanson ERO @
SR 90105 Sousa Marching Along / Fennell EWE
SR 90107 Wagner Excerpts / Paray DSO
SR 90109 Boardwalk Piper / R. Elmore, org
SR 90111 Music for Fifes and Drums / Fennell EWE
SR 90112 Ruffles and Flourishes / Fennell EWE
SR 90115 Vaughan Williams Symphony #8 Barbirolli / Halle *
SR 90121 Mozart Eine Kleine Nacht Music, Symphony in C / Dorati LSO
SR 90122 Borodin Polovetsian Dances; Rimsky Korsakov Le Coq D'or / Dorati LSO
SR 90123 Mendelssohn Symphony #3, Fingals Cave / Dorati LSO
SR 90124 Viennese Night at the Proms / Barbirolli Halle
SR 90125 Elgar Enigma Variations; Purcell Suite for Strings / Barbirolli Halle
SR 90126 Grieg Piano Concerto / Waldon Halle
SR 90127 Bach Bach on the Biggest / R. Elmore, org
SR 90128 Paray Mass / Paray DSO
SR 90129 Mozart Symphony #35; Haydn Symphony #96 / Paray DSO
SR 90132 Kodaly Hary Janos Suite; Bartok Hungarian Sketches, Roumanian Dances / Dorati MSO @
SR 90133 Schumann Symphony #3 / Paray DSO
SR 90134 Fiesta in Hi-Fi / Hanson ERO @
SR 90136 Carpenter Adventures in a Perambulator; Phillips McGuffey's Reader / Hanson ERO *
SR 90137 Katchaturian Gayne, Flight of the Bumble Bee / Weldon Halle
SR 90139 Rossini Overtures / Dorati MSO
SR 90143 Hindemith Symphony in Bb; Schoenberg Theme and Variations; Stravinsky Symphony for Winds
SR 90144 Hi Fi a la Espanola / Fennell ERpop @
SR 90147 Kennan 3 Pieces; Rogers Once Upon a Time / Hanson ERO *
SR 90149 Ives 3 Places in New England, Symphony #3 / Hanson ERO *
SR 90150 Hanson Song of Democracy, Elegy / Hanson ERO
SR 90153 Respighi Birds, Brazilian Impressions / Dorati LSO @
SR 90154 Brahms Haydn Variations; Mozart Symphony #39 / Dorati LSO
SR 90155 Haydn Symphonies #100 & #101 / Dorati LSO
SR 90156 Verdi Overtures / Dorati LSO
SR 90158 Handel Water Music Suite / Dorati LSO *
SR 90160 Suppe Overtures / Barbirolli Halle
SR 90161 Encore Please, Sir John / Barbirolli Halle *
SR 90163 Herbert Cello Concerto #2 Miquelle, vc; Peter Symphony in G / Hanson ERO
SR 90164 Grieg Peer Gynt Suite, Elegaic Melodies / Barbirolli Halle
SR 90165 Hanson Symhony #1 "Nordic" / Hanson ERO
SR 90166 Gershwin Cuban Overture; McBride Mexican Phop / Hanson ERO
SR 90168 Franck 3 Chorales, Piece Heroique / Dupre, org @
SR 90169 Widor Allegro from Symphony #6 Dupre Dupre Trip One / Dupre, org @
SR 90170 March Time / Fennell EWE
SR 90171 Brahms Symphony #2 / Dorati MSO
SR 90172 Copland Rodeo, Danzon Cubano, El Salon Mexico / Dorati MSO @
SR 90173 Winds in Hi-Fi Grainger/Rogers/Milhaud/Strauss / R. Fennell EWE @
SR 90174 Mendelssohn Mid Summer Nights Dream, Symphony #5 Paray DSO
SR 90175 Composer and His Orchestra, Vol. 1 / Hanson ERO
SR 90176 Mozart Serenade #10 for Winds / Fennell EWE *
SR 90177 Schmitt La Tragedie de Salome; Strauss, R. Salome's Dance of the 7 Veils; Lalo / Paray DSO @
SR 90178 Strauss Family Album / Dorati MSO
SR 90179 Kodaly Musica Hungarica / Dorati PH Bartok-Weiner
SR 90183 Bartok Dance Suite, 2 Portraits, Mikrokosmo / Dorati PH *
SR 90184 Mozart Symphonies #39 & #41 / Isserstedt LSO
SR 90189 The Magic of Bells Lievre / Dorati
SR 90190 Wienerwalzer Paprika / Dorati PH
SR 90191 Overtures Francaise / Paray DSO @
SR 90192 Hanson Symphony #2, Lament for Beowulf / Hanson ERO @
SR 90195 Rimsky Korsakov Scheherazade / Dorati DSO
SR 90196 Schubert Symphonies #4 & #6 / Suskind, Isserstedt LSO
SR 90197 British Band Classics Vol 2 Jacob/Holst/Walton / Fennel EWE @
SR 90198 Schumann Symphony #1 / Dorati PH
SR 90199 Respighi Ancient Airs and Dances / Dorati PH @
SR 90200 Tchaikovsky Serenade; Arensky Variations / Dorati PH
@ - HP's Super Disk List from The Abso!ute Sound
* - top recommendation, Sid Mark's series from The Abso!ute Sound
SR 90201 Tchaikovsky Marche Slave, Eugene Onegin / Dorati MSO
SR 90202 Strauss, R. Don Juan, Death and Transfiguration Dorati MSO
SR 90203 Bouquet de Paray; Rossini/Saint Saens/Weber/Liszt / Paray DSO
SR 90204 Sibelius Symphony #2 / Paray DSO @
SR 90205 Beethoven Symphony #1 & #2 / Paray DSO
SR 90206 Piston Incredible Flutist;Moore Pagaent of PT Barnum / Hanson ERO *
SR 90207 Hands Across the Sea / Fennell EWE
SR 90208 Haydn Symphonies #93 & #104 / Dorati PH
SR 90209 Katchaturian Gayne Ballet Music; Tchaikovsky Romeo and Juliet Overture / Dorati LSO
SR 90210 Brahms Horn Trio in Eb / Sonata #2 / Barrows, Horszowski, Szigeti
SR 90211 Viva La Marche! /Paray DSO
SR 90212 Chabrier Espana Suite, Pastorale / Paray DSO *
SR 90213 Debussy Petite Suite, ...Afternoon of a Faun; Ravel Tombeau de la Couperin, Valse / Paray DSO *
SR 90214 Smetana The Moldau; Liszt Les Preludes; Sibelius Valse Triste; Mussorgsky Night on Bald Mountain
SR 90215 Offenbach/Auber Overtures / Paray DSO
SR 90216 Stravinsky Petrouchka / Dorati MSO
SR 90217 Mussorgsky Pictures at an Exhibition / Dorati MSO *
SR 90218 Schubert "Unfinished" Symphony, Rosamunde / Skrowaczeski MSO
SR 90219 Grainger Country Gardens and other favorites / Fennell ERpop @
SR 90220 Gould West Point Symphony; Bennett Songs / Fennell EWE *
SR 90221 Diverse Winds Persichetti/Grainger/Hartley/Khachaturian / Fennell EWE *
SR 90222 Pops Over / Fennell EWE
SR 90223 Bloch Concerto Grossi #1 & #2 / Hanson ERO @
SR 90224 Barber Medea Suite, Capricorn Concerto / Hanson ERO *
SR 90225 Brahms Violin Concerto / Szigeti, vln /Menges LSO
SR 90226 Stravinsky Firebird Suite / Dorati LSO @
SR 90227 Dupre at Saint Sulpice Vol 1 / Dupre, org
SR 90228 Dupre at Saint Sulpice Vol 2 / Dupre, org
SR 90229 Dupre at Saint Sulpice Vol 3 / Dupre, org
SR 90230 Dupre at Saint Sulpice Vol 4 / Dupre, org
SR 90231 Dupre at Saint Sulpice Vol 5 / Dupre, org
SR 90232 Wagner Rienzi, Meistersinger, Fire Music, etc / Paray DSO
SR 90233 Cherubini Medea Highlites / Callas, Scotto Serafin LaScala
SR 90234 Wagner Tristan & Isolde, Tannhauser, Lohengrin / Dorati LSO
SR 90235 Liszt Hungarian Rhaposdies #2 & #3; Enesco Rhapsodies #1 & #2 / Dorati LSO *
SR 90236 Dvorak Symphony #4, Carnaval Overture / Dorati LSO *
SR 90240 Pergolesi La Serva Padrona Scotto
SR 90245 Gabrielli Music for Wind Instruments / Fennell EWE
SR 90246 Copland Appalachian Spring, Billy the Kid / Dorati LSO *
SR 90247 French Overtures / Paray DSO
SR 90248 Dorati Symphony, Nocturne, Cappriccio / Dorati LSO @
SR 90253 Stravinsky Rite of Spring / Dorati MSO
SR 90254 Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique / Paray DSO
SR 90255 Tchaikovsky Symphony #5 / Dorati LSO *
SR 90256 Ballet for Band Rossini/Gounod/Sullivan / Fennell EWE @
SR 90257 Ginastera Overture to a Creole "Faust"; Guaneri Three Dances; Still Sahdji Ballet / Hanson ERO *
SR 90258 Prokofiev Symphony #5 / Dorati MSO
SR 90259 Picchi Ballet d'Arpicorda / Puyana, harpsichord / Frescabaldi
SR 90260 Rachmaninov Piano Concerto #2 / B. Janis, pf / Dorati MSO
SR 90261 Highlights of Lucia Di Lammermoor / Scotto, DiStefano
SR 90262 Dvorak Symphony #9 "New World" / Paray DSO *
SR 90263 Gould Fall River Legend, Spirituals / ERO *
SR 90264 Sousa Sound Off / Fennell EWE *
SR 90265 Borodin Prince Igor Overture, Polovetzian Dances; Rimsky Korsakov Russian Easter, Capriccio Espagnole / Dorati LSO
SR 90266 Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto #1 / B. Janis, pf Menger LSO
SR 90267 Composer and His Orchestra Vol 2 / Hanson ESO
SR 90268 Brahms Symphony #1 / Dorati LSO
SR 90269 Suppe Overtures / Paray DSO
SR 90271 Marches for Orchestra / Fennel ERpop
SR 90272 Schubert Symphony #9 / Skrowacziewski
SR 90276 Wagner for Band / Fennell EWE @
SR 90277 Loeffler 2 Rhapsodies, McCauly Minitures, etc / Hanson ERO *
SR 90278 Berg Suites from Wozzeck and Lulu / Dorati LSO @
SR 90279 Tchaikovsky Symphony #4 / Dorati MSO
SR 90280 Mozart Symphony #40; Haydn Symphony #45 / Dorati LSO
SR 90281 Debussy 3 Nocturnes; Ravel Daphnes & Chloe Suite 2 / Paray DSO @
SR 90282 Schuller 7 Studies on Paul Klee; Fetler Contrasts / Dorati MSO *
SR 90283 Rachmaninov Piano Concerto #3 / B. Janis, pf Dorati LSO @
SR 90284 Sousa On Review / Fennel EWE
SR 90285 Franck Symphony in D min / Paray DSO
SR 90286 Bloch Schelomo; Herbert Cello Concerto #2 / Miquelle, vc Hanson ERO
SR 90287 Wagner Prelude to Die Meistersinger, etc / Dorati LSO
SR 90288 Bloch Sinfonia Breve; Peterson Free Variations for Orch. / Dorati MSO *
SR 90295 Royal Family of the Spanish Guitar / Romeros
SR 90296 Caledonia Romero/Guitar Music of Spain / Romero
SR 90297 10 Improvisations for Pepe Romero / Romero
SR 90298 Respighi Pines of Rome, Fountains of Rome / Dorati MSO
SR 90299 Eastern Philharmonia Musical Diplomats / Hanson
SR 90300 Prokofiev Piano Concerto #3; Rachmaninov Piano Concerto #1 / B. Janis, pf Kondrashin MPO @
SR 90301 Brahms Piano Concerto #2 / Bachauer, pf Skrowacziewski LSO
SR 90303 Dvorak Cello Concerto; Bloch Kol Nidre / Starker, vc Dorati LSO @
SR 90304 Golden Age of Harpsichord Music / Puyana *
SR 90305 Encore / B. Janis, pf *
SR 90308 Brahms Violin Concerto / Szeryng, vln Dorati LSO
SR 90309 Shostakovich String Quartets #4 & #8 / Borodin Quartet
SR 90310 Balalaika Favorites Snutov OSRFO @
SR 90311 Bartok Bluebeards Castle / Dorati LSO
SR 90312 Tchaikovsky Symphony #6 / Dorati LSO *
SR 90313 Ravel Espagnole, Alborado.. Pavane.. La Valse / Paray DSO @
SR 90314 Screamers/Circus Marches / Fennell EWE
SR 90315 Prokofiev Romeo & Juliet Suites #1 & #2 / Skrowacziewski MSO
SR 90316 Vienna 1908-1914 Schoenberg, Webern, Berg / Dorati LSO @
SR 90317 Beethoven Symphony #5, Egmont, Consecration.. / Paray DSO
SR 90318 Ballet Highlights from French Opera / Paray DSO *
SR 90319 Prokofiev Violin Sonatas #1 & #2 / Szigeti, vln Balsan, pf
SR 90320 Mendelssohn/Chopin Cello Sonatas / Starker, vc; Sebok, pf
SR 90321 Beethoven Piano Concerto #5 / Bachauer, pf Skrowacziewski LSO *
SR 90322 Bach Concerto & Duets for 2 Harpsichord
SR 90329 Liszt Piano Concerto #1 & #2 B. Janis, pf
SR 90347 Schumann/Lalo Cello Concerti / Starker, vc Skrowacziewski LSO
SR 90348 Kreisler Szeryng Play Kreisler
SR 90349 Stravinsky 3 Scenes from Petrouchka, etc. / Bachauer, pf
SR 90356 Mendelssohn Symphony #4 "Italian"; Schubert Symphony #5 / Skrowacziewski LSO
SR 90357 Composer and His Orchestra Vol. 3 / Hanson ERO
SR 90358 Beethoven Violin Concerto / Szigeti, vln. Dorati LSO
SR 90366 Hovahness Symphony #4; Giannini Symphony #3 / Roller EWE *
SR 90367 Treasures for the Violin / Szeryng, vln
SR 90368 Chopin Piano Concerto #1, etc. / Bachauer, pf Dorati CSO
SR 90369 Bach for the Harpsichord / Puyana
SR 90370 Bach Suites for solo cello #2 & #5 / Starker *
SR 90371 Liszt Hungarian Rhapsodies #1,4,5,6 / Dorati LSO *
SR 90378 Bartok Concerto for Orchestra / Dorati LSO *
SR 90379 Schuman New England Triptych; Griffes Poem for Flute and Orchestra; Mennin Symphony #5 / J. Mariano,fl Hanson ERO @
SR 90380 4 Concerti for 2 Guitars / Pro Arte of Munich
SR 90381 Beethoven Piano Concerto #4, Sonata op.14 #1 / Bachauer Dorati LSO
SR 90382 Songs of New Nations / De Pau
SR 90383 Schumann Piano Concerto / Janis, pf MSO
SR 90385 Mozart/Telemann Concerti for Trumpet / Steetzel
SR 90386 Rossini Overtures / Renzi LSO
SR 90387 Stravinsky Song of the Nightingale, Fireworks, Scherzo a la Russe, Four Etudes, Tango / Dorati LSO *
SR 90390 Broadway Marches / Fennell ESO
SR 90391 Ravel Gaspard de la Nuit; Debussy Por la Piano / Bachauer, pf; Gielgud, spkr
SR 90392 Brahms Cello Sonatas / Starker, vc; Sebok, pf
SR 90393 Khacaturian Violin Concerto / Szeryng Dorati LSO
SR 90395 Tchaikovsky Waltzes / Dorati LSO/MSO
SR 90396 Haydn Concerto for Trumpet, Horn and Oboe / VSO
SR 90397 Music in Shakespeare's England / Krepnis Cons.
SR 90400 Music of Leroy Anderson Vol 3 / Fennell ERpop
@ - HP's Super Disk List from The Abso!ute Sound
* - top recommendation, Sid Mark's series from The Abso!ute Sound
SR 90401 Vivaldi Concerto for Harpsichord, Guitar and Piccolo
SR 90402 Couperin Les Nations Rameau Concerts
SR 90403 Handel/Telemann/Dittersdorf Oboe Concerti
SR 90404 Handel Baroque Dances and Diversions / Andre Lagorce
SR 90405 Bartok First Rhapsody; Mendelssohn Variations Concertante; Chopin Sonata / Starker, vc; Sebok, pf
SR 90406 Mendelssohn/Schumann Violin Concerti / Szeryng, vln Dorati LSO
SR 90407 Mozart 4 French Horn Concertos / VSO
SR 90408 Musical Soiree at Court of San Souci
SR 90409 Tchaikovsky Variations on a Rocco Theme; Saint Saens Cello Concerto / Starker, vc Dorati LSO *
SR 90410 3 Concerti for Klavier and Orchestra
SR 90411 Baroque Harpsichord / Puyana
SR 90412 Mozart Serenades for Winds and Strings / Fennell/Dorati
SR 90413 Haydn Symphony #55 & #85, Piano Concerto / Lamoureuz Orch.
SR 90414 Haydn Rienzi/Goldberg Lamoureuz Orch./Netherlands Ch.
SR 90415 Haydn Symphony #100; Beethoven Symphony #6 / Dorati LSO
SR 90416 Bartok Miraculous Mandrin, Divertimento / Dorati BBC *
SR 90417 Romeros - Baroque & Solo / Romeros de Paur
SR 90418 Danse Calanda, Great Songs, Spirituals
SR 90419 Prokofiev Violin Concerto / Menges LSO; Stravinsky Duo Concertante / Szigeti, vln Bogas, pno
SR 90425 Vivaldi Concerti for Oboe
SR 90426 Bartok Wooden Prince / Dorati LSO
SR 90427 Spanish Music for 2 guitars / Presti, Lagoza
SR 90428 Mozart Piano Concerto #15 & #16 / Haebler, pf Davis LSO
SR 90429 Thompson Symphony on a Hymn Tune, Feast of Love; Hanson 4 Psalms / Hanson ERO
SR 90430 Hanson Piano Concerto, Mosaics; La Montaine Birds of Paradise / Hanson ERO
SR 90431 Gershwin American in Paris; Offenbach Gaite Parisienne / Dorati MSO
SR 90432 Chopin Piano Concerto #2, Fantasy in F / Dorati LSO
SR 90434 An Evening of Flamenco Music / Romeros
SR 90435 Paris 1917-1938 (Dada and Surrealism) Satie, Milhaud, Francaix, Auric / Dorati LSO *
SR 90436 Haydn Symphony #59 & #81 / Dorati FCO
SR 90437 Brahms Hungarian Dances / Dorati LSO
SR 90438 Mozartina / Dorati FesCO
SR 90439 Coates London Suite, Three Elizabeths, etc / Fennell LPO
SR 90440 Carousel Waltz, Orchestral Dance Favorites / Fennell LPO
SR 90442 Honegger/Webern/Debussy/Ives Sonatas / Szigeti, vln Bogas, pno
SR 90443 Concerto for Recorder and Strings / Kroner Marriner
SR 90444 Champagne and Roses and Bonbons-waltzes / Dorati MSO
SR 90448 Rachmaninov Piano Concerto #2; Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto #1 / Janis, pf Dorati MSO/LSO
SR 90449 Hanson Symphony #3; McDowell Symphony #1 / Hanson ERO
SR 90450 Nielson various / Weldike DRS
SR 90457 Baroque Music for 2 Guitars / Presti, Lagoya
SR 90458 18th Century Flute Concerti / Rampal, Roussel
SR 90459 Soler Music for Harpsichord / Puyana
SR 90460 Italian Cello Sonatas / Starker, vc; Sebok, pf
SR 90461 Concert in the Tivoli Gardens
SR 90466 Bach Violin Concerti / Szeryng
SR 90467 Brahms Alto Rhapsody; Kodaly Cantata / Markevitch RSO
SR 90480 Bach 3 Sonatas for Cello and Piano / Starker, vc; Sebok, pf
SR 90481 Classical Ragas of India / Bhattacharya
SR 90482 A Panorama of Experimental Music Vol 2 / Pierre Henre
SR 90487 Vivaldi Guitar Concerti / Romeros Alessandro SASO
SR 90488 Rodrigo Concerto Andaluz, Concerto Aranjuez / Romeros Allesandro SASO @
SR 90499 Dorati Symphony, Nocturne & Capriccio / Lord Dorati MSO
SR 90500 Scriabin various Hilde Somer, pf
SR 90502 Brahms Symphony #3 / Dorati LSO
SR 90503 Brahms Symphony #4 / Dorati LSO
SR 90510 Fennell Spectaculars / Fennell EWE
SR 90511 Schumann Symphony #4; Mozart Symphony #40 / Dorati LSO
SR 90515 Bartok Music for Strings Percussion and Celeste / Dorati LSO
SR 90516 Dvorak Symphony #7 / Dorati LSO
SR 90517 Corigliano Piano Concerto / Alessandro SASO
SR 90518 Flamenco Wedding Party / Romeros
SR 90519 Bach Piano transcriptions
SR 90520 Shura Cherkassky Piano Recital
SR 90521 Menotti The Old Maid and the Thief
SR 90523 Beethoven Symphony #7 / Dorati LSO
SR 90525 Scriabin Sonatas #7 & #9 / Hilde Somer
SR 90526 Dorati Encores / Dorati LSO
SR 90527 Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto / Szeryng Dorati LSO
SR 90528 The Saint Petersburg Sugar Plum / Dorati LSO
SR 90531 Bartok/Prokofiev various / Dorati BBC
SR 90532 Love, What the World Needs Now
SR 90533 Bartok Suite #3, Dance Suite / Dorati MSO
LPS 9000 Beethoven Wellington's Victory/Leonora/Prometheus Dorati MSO
LPS 2-901 The Civil War and It's Sounds Vol. 1 / Fennell ERO
LPS 2-902 The Civil War and It's Sounds Vol. 2 / Fennell ERO
SR 3-9000 Cherubini Medea / Callas, soprano
SR 2-9005 Delibes Copelia / Dorati MSO
SR 2-9006 Delibes Sylvia / Fistoulari LSO
SR 2-9007 Dvorak Slavonic Dances / Dorati MSO
SR 2-9008 Donizetti Lucia Di Lammermoor / Bastianini
SR 2-9009 Rossini La Cambiale di Matrimonie / Fasano
SR 2-9010 Paisiello Barber of Seville / Fasano VDR
SR 2-9011 Adam Giselle / Fistoulari LSO
SR 3-9012 Verdi Rigoletto / Gavazzoni
SR 2-9013 Tchaikovsky Nutcracker / Dorati LSO *
SR 6-9014 Tchaikovsky 3 Great Ballets / Dorati LSO
SR 2-9015 Tchaikovsky Symphonies 1 - 3 / Dorati LSO
SR 3-9016 Bach 6 Solo Cello Suites / Starker
SR 3-9017 4 Great Violin Concerti
SR 3-9018 Tchaikovsky Suites for Orchestra / Dorati Phil
SR 3-9019 Tchaikovsky Suites 3/4, Mutcracker excerpts Dorati LSO
SR 2-9120 Traditional World of Flamenco
SR 6-9121 Tchaikovsky 6 Symphonies / Dorati LSO
SR 4-9122 Portugal's Golden Age
SR 2-9123 Electronic Musique
SR 3-9124 Handel Concerto Grossi / Leppard ECO
SR 2-9125 Bach Flute Concerti
SR 2-9126 Tchaikovsky Greatest Hits
SR 2-9127 Heart of the Ballet
SR 2-9128 Heart of the Symphony
SR 2-9129 Heart of the Piano Concerto
SR 2-9130 Heart of the Opera
SR 2-9131 Heart of the March
SR 2-9132 Music for Musing
SR 2-9133 The Spoleto Festival
SR 2-9134 Music for the Morning
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-25 21:25
这几天实在太忙,所以也没有认真地延续帖子,贴一些水星的开盘带。。。。
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作者: ast123456    时间: 2010-6-25 21:55
开盘的没有,上LP一张
作者: 狗儿念经    时间: 2010-6-26 00:40
这几天实在太忙,所以也没有认真地延续帖子,贴一些水星的开盘带。。。。
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wayned 发表于 2010-6-25 21:25


这个太强大了,W兄能说说开盘带听起来什么感觉和滋味吗?
作者: amrs    时间: 2010-6-26 17:38
俺帮顶一个。
作者: amrs    时间: 2010-6-26 17:41
再来一个。试贴图。
作者: ikushi    时间: 2010-6-26 18:18
口水狂流不止。。。。。。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-6-26 18:29
也支持一下:

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作者: amrs    时间: 2010-6-26 19:04
starker的大无,70年代的philips 再版和测试版,60年代的金电台版。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-6-26 19:08
60年代的金电台版,这个今天要过万了!
那两个荷兰版区别大吗?
作者: amrs    时间: 2010-6-26 19:27
34# shinelb [/b

区别还是有的,白版的声音要纯和细节也丰富些。
作者: amrs    时间: 2010-6-26 19:31
szeryng的mercury片片。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-6-26 19:43
兄台玩黑胶应该很多年了吧?
作者: amrs    时间: 2010-6-26 21:34
10年里走了不小弯路。
作者: amrs    时间: 2010-6-26 23:59
MERCURY的录音还得听听黑胶。他家的电台版音效可是杆杆的。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-6-27 04:46
10年里走了不小弯路。
amrs 发表于 2010-6-26 21:34

10年修成正果。肯定有很多艰辛和快乐,有空兄台可以谈谈收集LP的故事啊。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-6-27 04:49
兄台收集的很多黑胶今天都非常贵了,
只能望洋轻叹啊!
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-30 22:04
已经收藏的水星CD。。。。。
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-6-30 22:07
继续。。。。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-1 03:29
很多都很“面熟”啊,兄台真有毅力啊。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-1 04:44
说实话,我的水星CD不多的,我仔细看看兄台的帖子,
有感想的也谈一谈。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-1 05:27


在模拟尤其是60年代,水星和RCA都竞争得很厉害。
不管是水星的LP和 CD都给人以声音粗粝的感觉。
担当用相对高档的器材来播放,水星的LP和CD效果都非常好。
因此水星的美国LP现在都比较昂贵,因为非常发烧。
回到正题:当时水星为超越其他唱片公司,就想出了一个“荒唐”的主意。
就是出访苏联,当然最终目的是录音。
当然这也是第一次允许美国人到苏联录音。
类似我国当年的乒乓外交。当时美苏冷战,艺术交往有一定的缓和作用。
巴拉莱卡也叫“三角琴”,形状为长颈三角形;
三弦拨弦乐器,出现于18世纪初,由大至小分6种,声音短促、活泼、强劲,音色很像蒙古的马头琴。
这个录音是当年LP上TAS的,发烧程度可见一斑。
但这张唱片感觉风格有些雷同,显得稍微粗犷和简单一点。
不过这个LP没听过,也不好下绝对的结论。
这个录音担任演出的是俄罗斯奥西波夫民族乐团。而录音器材是美国直接空运过去的。
水星在录音史上不断创新,有一定地位。
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-7-1 09:55
昨天晚上整理了一下自己的水星黑胶,少的可怜,才区区二十几张,看来任重道远。
昨晚过了一个水星逍遥会,哈哈。聆听了两张唱片,一张就是大名鼎鼎的1812(加农炮),另外一张是贾尼斯的普罗科菲耶夫和拉赫玛尼诺夫的钢协。
黑胶和CD的差距还是明显可闻,密度和自然度,特别是自然度,或许可以为水星录音的所谓粗粝拨乱反正一下。说到水星录音的粗粝,我在水星的开盘带里面倒是从未感觉到。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-1 10:08
用低档的系统听会有粗粝的感觉,尤其是CD机。
多年前我用一部马兰士听谢林那张克莱斯勒就有这种感觉。
后来换了JADIS CD机就没有粗粝的感觉了。
作者: rock    时间: 2010-7-1 15:21
这么多水星唱片,若能每张都评论一下就好了..
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-1 16:43


这是非常好听的TAS名盘,莱斯庇基所作《为琉特琴而作的古代歌曲和舞曲》,写作技巧参考了文艺复兴曲风。莱斯庇基是布鲁赫的学生,他还有著名的交响诗《罗马三部曲》。
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-7-1 21:15
这么多水星唱片,若能每张都评论一下就好了..
rock 发表于 2010-7-1 15:21

这个也是我所想的,但是小弟学艺不精,只能希望论坛的那些大侠出来上上课。
作者: sylx    时间: 2010-7-1 23:32
10年里走了不小弯路。
amrs 发表于 2010-6-26 21:34

我们在这相逢了!
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-2 18:41
期待W兄将水星黑胶发上来?
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-7-2 18:54
期待W兄将水星黑胶发上来?
shinelb 发表于 2010-7-2 18:41

这几天我会把手上的20几张LP都拍上来,不过都是一般的货色,哈哈。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-2 18:57
水星的黑胶不便宜的,我没几张,看您的了。哈哈。
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-7-2 19:17
最近正在集中精力增加自己水星和RCA唱片的数量,钱遭殃,呵呵。
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-7-2 19:19
刚刚把海菲兹的苏格兰幻想曲拍下,超贵。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-2 19:22
刚刚把海菲兹的苏格兰幻想曲拍下,超贵。
wayned 发表于 2010-7-2 19:19

这张头版我也有,最喜欢的唱片之一。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-2 19:29
这张头版我也有,最喜欢的唱片之一。
shinelb 发表于 2010-7-2 19:22
[attach]10601[/attach]
作者: 狗儿念经    时间: 2010-7-3 04:33
说实话,我的水星CD不多的,我仔细看看兄台的帖子,
有感想的也谈一谈。
shinelb 发表于 2010-7-1 04:44


我也不多,不超过十张(套)吧。对我来说水星在录音史上的传奇性意义远大于音乐文献的意义。指不定哪天就来个超级大包一网打尽了,我相信这一天不会太远了,如果那样的话,我就拿下一套。现如今听CD捡便宜的机会数都数不过来,有点目不暇接的感觉了!
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-3 04:39
水星除了西盖蒂和谢林的唱片比较有价值。
而且很多芭蕾音乐制作得比较好。
作者: 狗儿念经    时间: 2010-7-3 05:09
水星除了西盖蒂和谢林的唱片比较有价值。
而且很多芭蕾音乐制作得比较好。
shinelb 发表于 2010-7-3 04:39


居然忘了斯塔克尔?希腊老太鲍乔尔也行。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-3 05:20
居然忘了斯塔克尔?希腊老太鲍乔尔也行。
狗儿念经 发表于 2010-7-3 05:09

巴克豪尔是希腊人,我也是现在才知道。
她的勃拉姆斯第二钢琴协奏曲比较好。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-3 05:21
她还在水星录过肖邦和贝多芬的钢琴协奏曲。
作者: 狗儿念经    时间: 2010-7-3 05:26
希腊人曾经以她的肖像出过邮票。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-3 05:38
嗯,不简单。
90年代我在深圳的音响市场听过她的勃二,
印象很深,很有气势、力透纸背的演绎。
器材是B&WM805。那时这对箱子二手都要9K。
作者: sylx    时间: 2010-7-3 09:21
巴克豪尔是希腊人,我也是现在才知道。
她的勃拉姆斯第二钢琴协奏曲比较好。
shinelb 发表于 2010-7-3 05:20

支持一下
[attach]10613[/attach]
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-3 09:33
支持一下
10613
sylx 发表于 2010-7-3 09:21

谢谢兄台,就是这个录音,我当时听的是CD,虽然是用B&WM805书架箱听的,但感觉巴克豪尔的演绎真是巾帼不让须眉,很大气、很有气势。
不过我和168的chopin兄探讨过她的肖邦,就觉得粗狂了一点,不够婉约。
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-3 09:50
巴克豪尔的肖邦钢琴协奏曲:

[attach]10614[/attach]
作者: shinelb    时间: 2010-7-6 02:34
支持一下
10613
sylx 发表于 2010-7-3 09:21

支持一下不够,希望兄台多支持几下。
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-7-9 10:31
终于得空把仅有的水星黑胶拍了照片,现在贴图。。。。
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-7-9 10:39
感觉老唱片的内套非常漂亮。。。。
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-7-13 22:54
看看35mm的三轨录音的说明和3点式麦克风的摆位情况。。。。[attach]11180[/attach]
作者: huamanlou    时间: 2010-7-15 06:09
英文看不大懂,汗啊!
作者: wayned    时间: 2010-7-15 10:22
贴一下我的一位发烧朋友在JD翻译的大概描述

两边的孔乃菲林一大直观特点。这些孔用在专用的录音机上,能引领菲林准确有恒定的经过录音头。(传统的录音机不能保证录音轨迹永远保持恒定——亨利余按: 轨迹误差通常叫vow andflutter,抖摆率)录音头模组本身是低阻抗设计。菲林过头的速度高于磁带(菲林速度每秒18英寸约=50cm,磁带速度15英寸=37.5cm)。菲林轨迹宽裕——接近5倍的4分1英寸=6mm磁带轨宽。所以每一声轨占据大量记录空间。同时菲林比磁带厚3倍有多,意味更易储存和更少转印。(亨利余按:磁带卷压时磁粉松脱和磁力线切割前后两层磁带影响录音质量)

菲林录音特点更好补助水星“身历其境”录音技术,可以简单又直接的制作完全自然美妙无改动的音乐录音。这个柯普兰音乐录音的乐器摆位如图。

如图标示,三个话筒的位置放在乐团前面,每个立体声声轨一个麦,另加一个单声版录音麦在中间的立体声麦的位置。

这次的录音由乐团先奏几个强音的乐章以调整音量,之后这个音量一直保持不变话筒位置也定下来。水星的录音不做任何压缩和限幅,你听见的就是最真的演奏效果。决无各类调较。

威尔玛是录音监督,哈鲁特作音乐监督,费恩作技术指导和罗伯做他的特选工程人员。佐治做菲林转母盘制作约翰。。。。。




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