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楼主: 旱天雷

40#
发表于 2011-11-20 20:35:19 | 只看该作者
CONSECRATION是最后音乐会上午的现场,LAST WALTZ是晚上的现场,由于MILESTON公司先发行LAST WALTZ,所以再发行CONSECRATION说是PART 2(下半部分),其实应该是补漏(就像RIVERSIDE当初先发行WALTZ FOR DEBBY再发行SUNDAY AT THE VILLAGE VANGUARD一样),呵呵。

如果CONSECRATION与LAST WALTZ都有,按照时间顺序听会有不同的感觉。

另外,61年那套COMPLETE就是上面说的两张碟再加几首当天热身时的录音。BILL在80年,就是最后音乐会前,在VILLAGE VANGUARD还有一套现场,被NONESUCH公司发行,6碟,叫TURN OUT THE STARS,也是精品现场。

在原盘里买到的两套,其中就有最后音乐会的下半部分8张,尽管盒子被打到,好在碟没事。
morefeel 发表于 2011-11-19 16:22



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39#
发表于 2011-11-20 14:44:51 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 Jwang 于 2011-11-20 14:46 编辑

这是当代一位年轻的jazz演奏家
http://blog.sina.com.cn/u/1924111895

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38#
发表于 2011-11-20 14:35:51 | 只看该作者
多谢JWANG兄的指教,我非常同意您关于JAZZ也要正名的看法,现在打着JAZZ旗号的有太多的充数之作,也有很多听众分不清。尤其是现代爵士已经发展到了包罗万象的地步,深圳每年都有JAZZ节,一些欧洲的前卫JAZZ,可以做出长达数小时全无节奏和旋律的即兴,说实话我听到崩溃。前面视频里的两位女声KATIE和DIDO,在我看来基本和JAZZ没有任何关系,可能她们的乐风受到过JAZZ的影响,但更偏向POP。
从广义讲,JAZZ受古典的影响的确更多,很多JAZZ乐手都有很好的古典功底,而布鲁斯和摇滚乐手受古典影响相对小的多。
现代音乐已经有太多的交织,在互相影响中共同发展,但音乐的进步归根到底来自技术的进步,今后的音乐可能会用更多自自然界不存在的声响,来表达电子时代人们特有的情感。

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37#
发表于 2011-11-20 14:21:48 | 只看该作者
这是维基百科的条文,值得一读。

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_jazz

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36#
发表于 2011-11-20 14:00:12 | 只看该作者
爵士乐的源头比较多源。古典乐的源头为其中一支。我一直认为,法国人萨蒂,为爵士钢琴的源头之一。
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alma 发表于 2011-11-20 00:16

Jazz的产生只是在美国。Jazz的发展中受到其它乐种的影响是有的,但不是它的产生的源头。在Jazz中用了钢琴,不等于是个流派。Jazz历史上的重要人物都是美国人,其它的可以忽视。对于jazz,我看也要正正名。Jazz不是轻音乐,象ECM中,乱七八糟都成jazz了。


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35#
发表于 2011-11-20 13:50:06 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 Jwang 于 2011-11-20 14:05 编辑

从来没听过Jazz是从古典里产生的。看看这段英文

JAZZ HISTORY TIMELINE

1600s
The JAZZistry story begins some four hundred years ago when the English, French, Spanish, Portuguese and Dutch competed for control of the Atlantic slave trade. It's estimated that by 1860, more than 10 million Africans had been captured and transported to the Americas. This human atrocity ravaged populations primarily in regions we now call Ghana, Togo, Benin and Nigeria. They were transported mostly to the Caribbean Islands and Spanish colonies in Central and South America. Only an estimated 6 percent of these victims of slavery were traded in British North America. Far from homogeneous, they were diverse in linguistic, ethnic, and spiritual heritages. This diversity was reflected in their rich musical traditions.

1700s
By 1750, enslaved Africans constituted 20 percent of the population in British North America, almost 240,000 people. The majority lived in the Southern colonies though slavery also existed in Northern colonies. At the same time, particularly in Maryland, a small population of free blacks did exist.

Because England's industrial revolution was funded by profits from the British slave trade and from colonial America's slave-produced sugar and tobacco crops, British slave ships were bringing as great a number as 50,000 enslaved Africans to the New World each year by the 1790's.

Slavery took a slightly different cultural turn in the French-dominated city of New Orleans, founded in 1718. Here, free colored people called Creoles co-existed with whites and slaves. Creoles were the racially mixed children of French slave masters and enslaved African women. These biracial children were given more privileges than black children. They were often educated in the finest schools, trained as musicians, and allowed access to white society. According to custom, many French slave owners would free their slaves—and, especially their Creole children--immediately prior to their own death. With freedom,


Creoles were able to achieve opportunities in society and wealth that approximated the status and rights of white people. However, when the Spanish took over New Orleans in 1764, Creoles lost their social and economic status, a change that forced them to look for work. Many became traveling musicians, a phenomenon that would evolve into the Southern minstrel show. These Creole musicians and their descendants became the primary inventors of early jazz.


At the same time, largely through the social action of Quaker women, Connecticut and Rhode Island were the first northern colonies to initiate gradual emancipation of enslaved people, and in 1774, the first laws prohibiting slavery were passed.
1800s


Eleven million Africans had been forcibly taken from their homelands and an estimated 600,000 had been sold into slavery in North America by 1807, when the British abolished their slave trade. In fact, the period from 1798 to1808 was the largest slave importation into the United States, totaling about 200,000. Even though United States citizens were prohibited from exporting slaves, the slave trade continued within the country.

During the Civil War, Frederick Douglass and others, encouraged Lincoln to recruit African American soldiers. But, this was not a popular idea. Lincoln feared that the shaky allegiance of the Union’s border states would be tested to the limit, seriously threatening the Union’s existence.


Some Black soldiers were allowed to enlist in the Union Army. But the black troops were segregated from the white army were subjected to sub-standard conditions, and rarely allowed to fight. Most of them were restricted to supporting tasks behind the battle lines. But, because the war was long, and causalities were high, often black troops were called in as reinforcements, and many distinguished themselves through acts of patriotism an bravery.
Immediately after the Civil War, in 1867, black men cast ballots for the first time. The passage of the 15th Amendment, granted all rights of citizenship to men born in the US and to immigrant men who had been naturalized. (American Indian men were excluded, and were only granted the vote 54 years later, in 1921, when the Citizenship Act amended the 15th Amendment. This follows Women Suffrage with the 19th Amendment, in 1920.)


During Reconstruction, 265 black men were elected as delegates to ten state conventions. Of these men, 107 had been born into slavery, and 40 had served in the Union Army during the Civil War.


After the Emancipation several Northern religious societies founded dozens of black colleges and schools across the South, with the purpose of educating black students to become teachers, craftsmen and other leaders. These efforts continued during the Reconstruction Period. Known today as Historically Black Colleges and Universities or “HBCUs”, they include Tuskegee Institute in Alabama, Spelman College and Morehouse University in Georgia, Howard University in Washington DC, and Fisk University in Tennessee, among approximately 100 others.


The 1871 concert tour of The Jubilee Singers of Fisk University marks an historic threshold in the development of American music. The Jubilee Singers (pictured below, in a typical souvenir card) toured the US and Europe, performing traditional work songs and spirituals in their regular choir repertoire. They provided white audiences in both continents with their very first exposure to the lives and music of black Americans. The music was extremely popular and people called the song form of aspiritual, “a jubilee”. The financial success of their tours allowed Fisk to flourish; the cultural success developed new awareness and respect for traditional African American culture and music.


Racial segregation was a harsh reality in 19th century America. It led to universal double standards, where virtually all conditions and opportunities were inferior to those of white people. Though African Americans were no longer enduring slavery, they were still subjected to abusive and cruel treatment of a largely racist culture.


Deeply rooted racist attitudes persisted after the Civil War. African Americans were subjected to brutal forms of racism and discrimination, with little recourse. Called “Jim Crow laws”, the double standard of white and black lives was viciously enforced and had devastating economic and human costs. Jim Crow segregation and discrimination policies throughout the South severely restricted the lives and freedoms of African Americans and caused many to flee the South. Racial segregation and discriminatory treatment were also typical in northern areas, as well, though northern cities did typically offer some expanded opportunities to African Americans.


The term "Jim Crow" is derived from a popular song performed in minstrel show tradition, or minstrelsy era. The traveling stage shows became popular in the 1830's and eventually evolved into vaudeville theatre. One routine called "Jump Jim Crow" was broad slapstick performed by a white actor in cork-face paint, ridiculing black people, which was typical in the popular entertainment of the era.


Meanwhile, in the 1890's, the earliest forms of jazz began to emerge in New Orleans, a multiracial and multicultural French-ruled city with a social order that demanded music and revelry. Creole musicians were combining the elements of West African work songs, slave spirituals, minstrel and vaudeville shows, and rural blues expression with the European brass band instruments and harmonies. This newly born hybrid music filled the streets of New Orleans on every occasion from parades to funeral marches.

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34#
发表于 2011-11-20 10:28:20 | 只看该作者
爵士乐的源头比较多源。古典乐的源头为其中一支。我一直认为,法国人萨蒂,为爵士钢琴的源头之一。
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alma 发表于 2011-11-20 00:16

说到爵士钢琴,我不得不提这位大师Red Garland,他的本名叫William Garland,但更多的时候,大家更愿意称他为Red Garland,因为他演奏的乐器是钢琴,他对爵士乐最大的贡献,是创造了一种在爵士乐中常用到的滑进八度的演奏方法,为很多音乐家的即兴演奏提出了新的思路。

还有一位似为钢琴而生的Errol Garner,他是Bop时期最重要的演奏家之一,却没有其他Bop演奏家的激烈,永远怀着一腔柔情,缓缓让它随着琴键的起伏流出,这位为钢琴而生的音乐家不懂五线谱,不会读谱也不会记谱,对于他来说,钢琴就是他的嘴,他坐在那里,自然就能说出美丽的语言。他的《Misty》在很大程度上,就像Louis Armstrong的《What a Wonderful World》一样,已经成为了爵士乐的标杆。

分享一段网上能找到的唯一一段Errol Garner的演出录像,来源于一次电视节目的录像。



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33#
发表于 2011-11-20 10:06:04 | 只看该作者
Dido《Thank You》





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32#
发表于 2011-11-20 09:55:37 | 只看该作者
她的风格更多趋向于民谣、流行、舞曲。
雨中独舞 发表于 2011-11-20 09:53

她有一首《谢谢你》很有名。

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31#
发表于 2011-11-20 09:53:19 | 只看该作者
不是爵士风格的,是流行音乐天后,一个乐队的主唱。
shinelb 发表于 2011-11-20 09:46

她的风格更多趋向于民谣、流行、舞曲。

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30#
发表于 2011-11-20 09:46:55 | 只看该作者
DIDO不是爵士风格吧
morefeel 发表于 2011-11-20 09:22
不是爵士风格的,是流行音乐天后,一个乐队的主唱。


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29#
发表于 2011-11-20 09:22:50 | 只看该作者
DIDO不是爵士风格吧

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